Here's a picture of a maltby 1943 with a similar 'M' as yours, before the 1943: These included the Ross MK. One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. 0000013061 00000 n I. 0000004592 00000 n by verdenpark 23 Mar 2012, 07:54, Post Prior to obtaining independence in 1946, Jordan was a British Protectorate, known as Transjordan. This revised specimen was the best of its type and was still in use by NATO forces. The No. However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. The following illustrates the four bayonet and scabbard types that were mass produced; and some unusual variants that I have acquired. Hollands being the hand made shotgun and rifle masters took the specified "high street" sourced screws and blued the heads. Some of these rifles seemed to have laid in stores until the end of the war and then they and and the remains of the BSA marks were furiously converted to "T" status by H&H while the contract lasted. [QUOTE=Twodogs]My Long Branch No4 Mk1* has the "angled Transition". Unissued Savage Enfield No 4 Mk1 Rifle , 303 British. This is stamped on the band: 1943 A L 1 1385 Also on the rear barrel band it is stamped VNS with a little crown underneath of it and there is an I stamped on the front sight guard. 7B/1005/21/103/1147 If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. 4Mk. $799.00 . This example bears the Canadian Government acceptance mark, indicating use by Canadian Forces. Where did the replacement Micrometer sights come from? 4 Mk. 4 Mk. xref 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or Cheek Piece and Screws - The birch / beech / walnut cheek piece design and material specification were first developed for the No3T - the scoped Pattern '14 rifles. . The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. 4Mk. Four mouthpiece materials have been documented: Zinc Alloy (Mazak), Steel, Aluminum, and brass. The wood shop feeding Longbranch in Canada did yield some orignal NOS Canadian Destined cheek pieces in the last decade. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 15:17, Post My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel . 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band holding the buttstock to the receiver assembly: (1) "1944" (with the 4 overstriking what. GI#: 102214907. $15.50. The No. They may or may not have the serial stamped into the front part of the fore-end and in the case of the Australian Lithgows it may be stamped into the butt as well. 0000004719 00000 n 1 Mk3 mark III SMLE No4 Mk1 1917 British Parts Lot S at the best online prices at eBay! (SMLE rifles which became the No1 MkIII and No1 MkIII* in 1926) An Enfield Rifle No4 Mk1*, a No5 Mk1 and the aussie experimental No6 Mk1/1. Feb 9, 2020. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) 4 Mk. The "S" was added to indicate the need for this re-zeroing as a subsequent step. The volume of serial number inquiries has prompted me to fashion this page together and try and explain how best to identify a particular rifles manufacturer. Then after the lessons and material losses of the BEF in Europe, the No4T was hurried into existence and the 1907 USA leather slings were applied to it as standard equipment. Advertisements. The little safety spring has a Long Branch stamp,the front sight protector was made by the Singer Sewing Machine Co.,the magazine follower was made by Savage. Genuine early BSA marked T rear sight (reconditioned / polished scale face): When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) "S" inside a square . I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. Get the best deals on Enfield Slings when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. The other makers were much less prolific. Many Baird examples have a crowned IG mark on the socket. II bayonets from 19421944. The Canopy in Ellicott City - Totally Cool With OC, Still openings for this Saturday's York IWLA Funshoot, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Before the war, Prince-Smith was a manufacturer of machinery for making woolen textiles. Hey guys, I just recently was given by my boss a Lee Enfield NO.4 MK1 303 British that I am trying to gather all the info about. Mid Band - This fabricated example is marked for S126 (C.E. Enfield MK1 S.M.L.E.303 British 24' barrel 1905 production This. I (T) and No. With the bayonet fixed, the helve was used to probe for land mines. The following maker marks are pictured at left: This scabbard is pictured on page 133 of Graham Priests book, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century. According to the author, the example in my collection is still the only brass-throated scabbard reported. WIth the No4T there are still a couple of ways to do this - long length of either sling forward or rearward - depending on your stature and preference for adjustment. British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. In 1939, the British soldier was still armed with the same rifle his father, or perhaps even his grandfather, carried. 4Mk. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. 0000003043 00000 n When these rifles were refurbished in the factory, they were given a second black oxidizing or they were painted with a matte or semigloss black paint in the spots where the original finish had worn off. Other Components - By studying the few untouched (scopeless) No4Ts we can see which other No4T components came from other supplies to the BSA factory from 1941 to 1945. $8.69 shipping. That looks like an interesting rifle. 196,200 were produced, all by Joseph Lucas Ltd., Chester Street, Birmingham. Rifles are in good to very good original condition and ready to fire. The size, position and style of font are particular to the Hollands application. No. So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. II* bayonet has Arabic markings on the socket. 4 Mk. UKSkennerton's Arms and Militaria Press. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. 1 rifle), but changes were made to the. I picked this Enfield up for 250$. I was beautifully made, with its distinctive cruciform blade. Longbranch No. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. In the future, with a bit of luck, i should be a position to purchase an active Lee Enfield No 4. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. III sniper rifle and Enfield No. It does appear to have been sent thru a re-furbishing and re-build at some time in its life by all the markings not made by Savage. 4Mk. 0 Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. 5,949. The real loop is similarly for adjusting tautness from the biceps to the butt sling of the rifle when in the firing shoulder "pocket". II* bayonets have been observed with an arrow over "D" marking on the front of the socket. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. Re: Lee Enfeild No 4 Mk1 Markings by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50 Your serial No. A round frog stud is brazed to the body. The rifle was dated 1942 and a lot of the No 4 and some No 1 SMLEs issued to South Africa was eventually sold to the SAP agencies then onto the surplus market. BO 12151 (the five digit no. If the * on the receiver ring was on a No.1, it would mean the action had 'pitting or rust'. No. 1944 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch TP Sniper Rifle Serial # 74L0318 (Converted by Long Branch Arsenal, Ontario, Canada) c/w matching Telescopic, Sighting C No.32, Mk.I(TP) (Trade Pattern) Scope Serial # 4392S (Mfg by Lyman-Alaskan) . .303 isn't any different that anything else. The company disappeared in 1970. Four firms produced the No. Also, the Tape Hunt makes a return. Along with parts replacement and service programs. It is essentially an updated N0. Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. This PSK No. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. 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Batch No: Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1944 No4T on the left and two heavily reworked "sportster" T's (the middle professionally done by Sante Fe) and an American surplus "bubba" on the right. I scabbards were made in the USA. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post The labelling indicates that this No. It was thought that these may have been used by Australian units serving alongside the British Army, however, Australian issue of these bayonets has not been confirmed. Had a look at Skennerton, and did not find much. BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. (2) Canadian No. Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. Based on serial numbers observed, approximately 35,000 No. British "Enfield" rifles are some of the most iconic small arms in the world. Armourers would not make a buttstock with S51 for spare parts. This is not to say that Enfield serial numbers provide no information or that they are not an interesting subject. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. The Savage-Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts, made approximately 1.25million No. 4 spike bayonet was the result of a 20 year series of studies, experiments, and troop trials seeking to find a lighter, handier substitute for the venerable Pattern 1907 bayonet. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . The Lee-Enfield No. This indicates the length of the bolt head with the larger numbers being the longer bolt heads. Canadian Arsenals produced a run of approximately 5,000 No. Pakistan and India added the "Ishapore" screw to reinforce the front wood forward of the knox (more likely job creation for armourers). Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. In correspondence, Anthony Carter indicated that Brades was the maker of many of the entrenching tools. 3. Essentially both types of sling present 3 loops, to form a better control on the stance with the firearm to hold and return to a sighting zero (natural point of aim) - I have personally experienced this in CMP competitions, where sling use during rapid fire is essential. III rifle also began to take hold, different mounting systems were tried. 4 Mk. The swivel was to be "low turret" in design so that the sling body would be stopped by the existing magazine loop - this allowed the sling to be "locked" in a diagonal exit path off the fore end at an ideal angle to wrap the bicep and provide sling position options for better steadying in all positions. I like using the triangular sling swivel to deliberately tighten the sling around my hand to grip the fore-end when using a shooting glove, Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information, Genuine Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Parts, Features, Marks and Accessories, Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. over S376, inside a rectangle. In the case of Savage Stevens the serial numbers began with a 0C1 and for Long Branch 0L1, these serials progressed in sequence directly relating the serial number to the number of rifles produced. Buy Lee Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard No3 Mk1 No4 Mk2: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bayonets Knives & Swords All: 972734854 . 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